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Odinius · Sep 01, 2008, 02:42 PM // 14:42

I really like the idea, would still like to have an illustrated hardcover GW1 book of lore!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Senrath · Sep 01, 2008, 03:00 PM // 15:00

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Originally Posted by 4thVariety

Fourth problem are the badguys in GW. They are usually a bunch of moronic, yet powerful beings, perpetrating deeds of evil for the sake of evil itself. GW is deeply rooted in a "black vs. white" battle of "good vs. evil". Popular fiction, be it comics, books or movies are rooted in conflicts between different shades of grey. Good guys doing bad things for the greater goods and bad guys who initially had honorable intentions. Not something current GW lore is known for. You're either a red dot or a green dot and that's how the game is perceived while cutscenes and dialogue is being skipped.

You don't really know the Prophecies story well, do you? As the "hero", you do plenty of "evil" things in the name of "good". Some of your enemies are the same, while some others are as you say. And then there is the BBEG (big bad evil guy) who wishes to awaken an ancient power so he can control the world. Not exactly evil for the sake of evil.

HawkofStorms · Sep 01, 2008, 03:06 PM // 15:06

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Originally Posted by Senrath

You don't really know the Prophecies story well, do you? As the "hero", you do plenty of "evil" things in the name of "good". Some of your enemies are the same, while some others are as you say. And then there is the BBEG (big bad evil guy) who wishes to awaken an ancient power so he can control the world. Not exactly evil for the sake of evil.

Yeah, the problem was too many idiots complained about how the Phrophecies storyline was "stupid" or "overly complex" for just those same reasons, and thus all the other campaigns have much more dirrect good vs evil storylines.

Basically, you can't please everybody.

4thVariety · Sep 01, 2008, 03:22 PM // 15:22

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Originally Posted by Senrath

You don't really know the Prophecies story well, do you? As the "hero", you do plenty of "evil" things in the name of "good". Some of your enemies are the same, while some others are as you say. And then there is the BBEG (big bad evil guy) who wishes to awaken an ancient power so he can control the world. Not exactly evil for the sake of evil.

From the point of view of the hero the actions are always the right ones. Only later is there some doubt about them, but even then you can salvage the mess you created. The structure is "Action - Plot Twist - Salvage Operation - Plot Twist -Salvage - etc". I was more referring to plots where you as the hero do something evil, that you know is evil the second you do it, but even then you don't stop, because something is compelling you to do it that way. That's not something Prophecies can offer, Nightfall has that in the form of Palawa Joko, but NF is not really playing that card to its full strenght.

As far as the Lich goes, he is even more generic in his plan than Dr. Evil who in himself is a parody of badguys. "I do convoluted things to destroy the world, muwahahahaah". Axe > Head -> End of plot.

Winterclaw · Sep 01, 2008, 03:22 PM // 15:22

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Originally Posted by strcpy

and some I wish I had never even started, let alone finished (again, for Star Wars a Splinter of the Mind's Eye comes to mind).

For me it's everything during and after the New Jedi Order series. Haven't finished it and I don't plan to, nor move on to the legacy of the force.

own age myname · Sep 01, 2008, 08:31 PM // 20:31

http://news.bigdownload.com/2008/08/...ies-announced/

If you read you see "Plans to be released in 2009". I don't know how true it is, but it's something...

Rhamia Darigaz · Sep 01, 2008, 08:40 PM // 20:40

if anet doesn't release gw2 on 1 January 2009 i will send them an unpleasant letter.

Taurucis · Sep 01, 2008, 08:46 PM // 20:46

I think they meant that the book would be released in 2009.

However, it would be nice if they did release GW2 in 2009.

own age myname · Sep 01, 2008, 08:47 PM // 20:47

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Originally Posted by Taurucis

I think they meant that the book would be released in 2009.

However, it would be nice if they did release GW2 in 2009.

I don't see this meaning a book:

Guild Wars series of games and the upcoming full sequel Guild Wars 2, scheduled to launch sometime in 2009. No author or release dates for the novels were revealed.

Gregslot · Sep 01, 2008, 08:48 PM // 20:48

Nice, a novel!
I allways liked those "lore" stories at the guildwar's website.
Too bad they stoped after the first 6 months.

cthulhu reborn · Sep 01, 2008, 08:52 PM // 20:52

a possible maybe is not news.

The beta was supposed to happen this year initially and it was postponed. It's impossible to predict what the release date will be because Anet themselves do not say more than 2009/2010. So maybe they are right about 2009 maybe not...

own age myname · Sep 01, 2008, 08:53 PM // 20:53

I count the novel as news enough, as it explains what happened that makes us have to save the world again?

Dark Desicration · Sep 01, 2008, 08:59 PM // 20:59

My bet still goes on 2010.

the Puppeteer · Sep 01, 2008, 09:11 PM // 21:11

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10321471

Taurucis · Sep 01, 2008, 09:13 PM // 21:13

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Originally Posted by own age myname

I don't see this meaning a book:

Guild Wars series of games and the upcoming full sequel Guild Wars 2, scheduled to launch sometime in 2009. No author or release dates for the novels were revealed.

Meh, my bad -_-

That's what I get for skimming.

However, I would much prefer a 2010 release and a stable, exploit-free, finished game, rather than a 2009 release that gives us a buggy, half-baked game.

MisterT69 · Sep 01, 2008, 09:13 PM // 21:13

december 31st 2009...is my guess just to screw with us, and everyone who buys it just ends up getting rickroll'd when they try to install it. Oh I'd lol.

Chasing Squirrels · Sep 01, 2008, 09:14 PM // 21:14

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Originally Posted by Rhamia Darigaz

if anet doesn't release gw2 on 1 January 2009 i will send them an unpleasant letter.

If gw2 is released in jan/09 I will eat my own shit.

Age · Sep 01, 2008, 09:18 PM // 21:18

Is is the book just novel gave it away for me I would say the game to be released in 2010.

isamu kurosawa · Sep 01, 2008, 09:29 PM // 21:29

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Originally Posted by ntherblast

If gw2 is released in jan/09 I will eat my own shit.

If i come into a large sum of money i will be investing heavily in anet to push forward the release date now.

On a more serious note: Anet have stated many times that if news on release dates is not posted on their site or on wiki by an anet employee then it is to be treated as a baseless rumour.

Breakfast Mc Rit · Sep 01, 2008, 09:31 PM // 21:31

A lore novel is more than good enough for me! I'm still itching to find out the rest of the story.

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Originally Posted by Taurucis

However, I would much prefer a 2010 release and a stable, exploit-free, finished game, rather than a 2009 release that gives us a buggy, half-baked game.

Exploit-free? Highly unlikely. They can take 4 more years and someone will find some sort of exploit within the game. As for bugs, I don't know of a game free of them.